The Northern Fringe

One of the big issues effecting the people of Saint Margarets Ward is the Northern Fringe Development

Building on the Northern Fringe at present would lead to traffic congestion chaos along Valley Road and Colchester Road, increasing the use of Roads like Henley Road, Westerfield Road, Tuddenham Road, Sidegate Lane and Rushemere Road being used as rat runs. It is clear that the present road network would not be able to cope with it.

This is one of the reasons why resident of Saint Margarets Ward and Conservative candidate for the forthcoming bye election, Stephen Ion is against it.

Of course Labour candidate for Saint Margarets, Glen Chisholm can’t object to the Northern Fringe because the crazy idea was imposed on the town by the last Labour government.

Advertisements
This entry was posted in Uncategorized and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink.

20 Responses to The Northern Fringe

  1. A Ross says:

    Mr Ion against it? The last Tory administration and the Tory Group plus Mr Gummer are for a planned development on the Northern Fringe – they voted for it with 6 Tories voting against it (only 4 still cllrs) So do we have a change in Tory policy or is Mr Ion saying what he thinks the voters want to hear?
    The new rules for planning that this Govt will bring in, will make it easier for developers to build on locations like the Northern Fringe

    • Wrong! Mr Ion is definitely against the Northern Fringe and the development was imposed on the last borough administration by the then lousy Labour governement in Westminster.

      • A Ross says:

        Cllr Cenci has just saidon twitter that she is for building on North Ipswich and that it was Tory policy- facts wrong again!

        Here are Cllr Cenci’s words – No I am personally for building on it, as long as infrastructure there. Built on Stoke park, why should we not in North

      • Alasdair, notice Councilor Ceci’s words “as long as infrastructure there” The infrastructure’s not there is it?

      • A Ross says:

        That is why a proper plan is needed so infrastructure is built, if you let developers win on appeal – they will not build to a plan but will be a mish mash.

        But at least Cllr cenci has told the truth- the Tories did vote to build on North Ipswich – so now you have chosen a candidate who does not agree with Tory group? He might last less time that Sarah Stokes!

  2. A Ross says:

    They (Tories and Libs) voted through the local development Framework document – so your now saying they have changed their mind? They could have voted against it- 6 of them did.

    Maybe you should ask Cllr Harsant – Mr Ion seems to be saying what the voters want to hear rather than the truth.

    • They (the last Labour government) left the last borough administration with no option but to vote it through. Now the National Labour party has a plan for us to borrow our way out of debt and build lots of new houses and we know where in Ipswich they want those houses built don’t we Alasdair?

  3. A Ross says:

    We now have a Tory Govt- they have not scrapped the plan for Northern Ipswich, they have actually made it easier for large developers- so local Tories are to go against their own Govt? Just after votes?

    • Alasdair,
      How interesting it is that none of your comments are in relation to the effect a development like the Northern fringe Development would have on the local area.

      Ipswich Labour are the ones after votes. That’s why they want the Northern Fringe. Because it would change the demographics of the area from what they are now, where in Saint Margerets at present, Labour haven’t got a cat in hells chance of winning.

  4. Mo says:

    You do realize that your party in govt is bringing in legislation to make this sort of development easier, overriding local preferences altogether? And that your party in the Council actively supported this specific scheme when it was drawn up?

    It sounds like Stephen Ion is a lonely voice among the Tories, if he genuinely does oppose developer-driven planning, and isn’t just saying it for the sake of votes.

    • The reason for Stephens objection as well as mine and other Tories is stated clearly in the secong paragraph of my post.

      Building on the Northern Fringe at present would lead to traffic congestion chaos along Valley Road and Colchester Road, increasing the use of Roads like Henley Road, Westerfield Road, Tuddenham Road, Sidegate Lane and Rushemere Road being used as rat runs. It is clear that the present road network would not be able to cope with it.

      • Stephen says:

        Furthermore, dRoss and his dRones are being misleading once again in their summary of the new planning policy – it is being driven entirely by localism so building can only proceed if local communities approve.

        They are as wrong over housing need now as they were over Ipswich Airport – then Blair encouraged a large increase in immigration to fill thousands more real and proposed houses across the country. I haven’t yet yet read their apology for “How do we stop the Golden Key being demolished? By pretending that Tesco will build on the site” falsehood.

      • Mo says:

        I know what the reasons are for the objection. But as most of the Tory councillors nonetheless voted for the scheme, that suggests that they can’t have given these concerns all that much weight. DId you raise these issues to them at the time? DId Stephen Ion? How did they respond?

      • Mo says:

        Stephen, if you genuinely believe that the new planning policy will be driven entirely by localism and will only allow building where local communtiies approve, then I envy your childlike innocence of spirit – you must live in a rather beautiful version of the world. But I fear you will soon be painfully disappointed.

        It surely must be apparent to you by now that Cameronism is just Blairism spraypainted blue. It is unideological, corporatist and centralist, in exactly the same ways as the recent Labour govts. People in your party such as Gavin Maclure are, rightly, already voicing the same criticisms of Cameron that mainstream Labourites expressed about Blair.

  5. A Ross says:

    Harsant x 2, West, Cenci, Carnall, Pope, Hale, Debman, Smith, Terry, Maclure x2 – all Ipswich Tory councillors, all voted for the planning framework – so Ion would have voted against them?

    No, he would have voted the way Carnall said – so if no building on Northern Fringe, where do we build the houses that are needed? Poulter would like us to build on any spare space in East Ipswich – Foxhall, Spring and Woodbridge Rd are already jammed most mornings – so Tories want more back garden building? Then again we had Liz Harsant speaking against that last week.

    So where do Gummer, Poulter and Ipswich Tories really stand on this issue?

    All the landowners on the Northern Fringe have already sold their land or agreed deals with developers. It is going to happen so it is better that a council works with a developer to get the correct infrastructure- roads, schools , clinics – using Ravenswood as a guide. If not we will have developers (thansk to new Tory rules) doing what they like.

  6. Stephen says:

    “Stephen, if you genuinely believe that the new planning policy will be driven entirely by localism and will only allow building where local communtiies approve, then I envy your childlike innocence of spirit – you must live in a rather beautiful version of the world. But I fear you will soon be painfully disappointed.

    It surely must be apparent to you by now that Cameronism is just Blairism spraypainted blue. It is unideological, corporatist and centralist, in exactly the same ways as the recent Labour govts. People in your party such as Gavin Maclure are, rightly, already voicing the same criticisms of Cameron that mainstream Labourites expressed about Blair.”

    Nonsense. Planning law is really quite simple. A year and a half ago, local authorities were obliged to build a quota of new homes determined by central government (Prescott: “The Green Belt is a Labour achievement and we will build on it”) and by the regional assembly – if in doubt, the system of trained planning officers would rule in favour of developments that the top-down system had dictated.
    Now, local communities will decide and the planning system will interpret according to the revised guidance that reflects the new approach. Furthermore, this Government believes in returning immigration to the lower pre-1997 levels, which will require less housing.

    This Government, indeed, comprises two parties but is actually less divided than it’s predecessor and is already reversing many of the authoritarian measures of it’s predecessor. At the same time, Conservatives are always more individual and can disagree with each other in a civilised way – hence the preponderance amidst the blogosphere referred to by Kevin in an earlier thread. This is underpinned by a determination, shared without exception, to deal with the Labour-created crisis this Government was bequeathed.

  7. Pingback: Will North Ipswich housing row over shadow by election? « Ipswich Spy

  8. Daniel Defoe says:

    If we have to build the Northern Fringe makes sense, assuming the infrastructure is there. It would also make sense to fill in some of the green areas in the Scottish estate which seems to be unusually privileged in terms of space. It is simple cruelty to cram more dwellings into areas like St John’s.

    Question is, why are we building at all ?

    Say No to any residential development other than extensions and conversions for 5 years. Encourage the best use of existing property by improving and extending Victorian and Edwardian terraces. Make provision for off-street parking by narrowing wide pavements to utilise front gardens, and by driving tracks to the back of long gardens etc.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s